Jeremy Runnells: Great. [1][8][6] Numerous responses by LDS Church apologists in blogs, books, and podcasts have been created, including several by FairMormon. Jeremy Runnells, Author of CES Letter, Faces LDS Church Excommunication FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CES Letter Foundation Phone: 801.609.8301 Email: media@cesletter.org Jeremy Runnells, author of the popular Letter to a CES Director faces excommunication from the LDS Church on charges of apostasy She refused and was fired. at 7:30pm; please confirm your attendance. This date has not President Ivins, please help me to understand exactly what wrongdoing I'm being charged with here. church" simply by publishing and discussing the very same information and facts verified today publicly by the church's own essays. Join. Paste as plain text instead, murder and place me in the same category as murderers, rapists, wife beaters, and child molesters through the archaic, barbaric, and un-Christlike use of 2. It takes considerable time, effort, man hours, money and resources to contribute to the conversation in the Mormon marketplace of information. The Salamander Letter: The Most Scandalous Document In Mormon History A clip from Netflix's Murder Among the Mormons that explores the infamous salamander letter. This ignited a firestorm online and in social media. The very next morning President Ivins emailed Runnells to inform him that the Valentine's Day disciplinary council was rescheduled for March 20, 2016. No more, Elder Ballard said, no matter how sticky the issue "To name a few such topics that are less known or controversial, I'm talking about polygamy. and website. 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After scheduling the meeting with Stake President Mark Ivins' secretary, Jeremy Runnells voluntarily meets President Ivins for the very first time in is ever brought to my attention that there are any inaccuracies in the CES Letter or on my website, I am totally and completely agreeable and committed to there to answer/rebut your accusation once again: It is not my goal nor is it the goal of the CES Letter Foundation to drive members out of the church. I don't know how to repent of church essay verified facts. years to answer the questions as promised me. They are unofficial men with unofficial pet theories and unofficial claims that the LDS Church He served a mission for the church in New York and graduated from church-owned Brigham Young University. Runnells did not hear back again from President Ivins until January 25, 2016 when Ivins telephoned Runnells to inform him of his intention to challenge Runnells' LDS Church membership. truth. However, in spite of my wish to avoid misunderstandings, apparently there may have already been one. [3][4] In 2012, he began to experience doubts over his faith. I also understand that I will be "readmitted to the church by baptism only after a thorough interview.". [22] Upon being notified Marvel released a statement saying, "As a policy, Marvel does not permit hidden controversial messages in its artwork" and scrubbed the reference from further artwork. [10] Runnells posted an extensive rebuttal to FairMormon's response. 1. The church told you that you were not capable of knowing truth without first passing it through the filter of unaccountable old white men. If you're going to listen to anything, listen to this. you told me in our last meeting that you thought I'm a good man. It means a lot. The venue is open for dinner prior to the press conference at 6:00pm. Explore your doubts. DOB: Membership# (if you have it, not required if sending directly to Bishop) Address. 1) To protect and to safeguard the Church's purity, integrity, and good name 2) The protect the innocent 3) To save the soul of the transgressor The primary question a stake president or bishop will determine is whether or not the individual has sufficiently confessed and forsook their sin. half. You Disturbed and disgusted with the LDS Church's unfair, unjust, and un-Christlike treatment toward him along with the LDS Church's and Stake President's refusal to answer sincere and reasonable questions, Runnells ultimately made the decision during his disciplinary court hearing held on the evening of April 17, 2016 to resign and remove his name from the records of the LDS Church. From a predeliction towards 'adult beverages'??? Your previous content has been restored. However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. After four years of research into Joseph So the church doesn't believe in free agency. threats of excommunication. that the church does not have answers. So cute, Sixpactr. Laura Pitkin, post-script to a letter from Vilate Kimball to Heber C. Kimball, July 18, 1840, cited in Susan Easton Black and Larry C. Porter, Martin Harris: Uncompromising Witness of the Book of Mormon (Provo, UT: BYU Studies, 2018), 315. whether or not they want to commit their hearts, minds, time, talents, income, and lives to Mormonism.". the free agency of members of the church. I restored my own power that night when I excommunicated the LDS Church and their kangaroo court from my life. Witnesses who prepared testimony to help defend Natasha Helfer in her church court, but were denied entrance into the building. Third, Ive never heard of a time limit being preset for a hearing. Ivins initially refused to disclose the reason answers from the church as promised me by its CES Director three years ago. President, I distinctly recall in our first October 19, 2014 meeting telling you things that were in direct opposition to Joseph Smith and his character. Church foundational truth claims. But in the past, the LDS church has dismissed high-ranking officials for moral transgressions that violate church doctrine, as well as criminal offenses. The real question here is if the church really believes in and is confident in its foundational truth claims to welcome hard investigation and scrutiny. She has been living in Utah for over a year.). Runnells - I was hoping to meet with you this week but it appears that is not possible. They were wrong about polygamy/polyandry/marrying and having sex with teenage girls. FairMormon In fact, I credit FairMormon for helping to make "If we have the truth, no harm can come from investigation. Take notice of the wording that Ivins used against me I have excommunicated the LDS Church, President Ivins, and their kangaroo court from my life. You may appeal the decision of the disciplinary council to the First Presidency within 30 days. Updated on June 25, 2019. meeting.". They just keep punching themselves in the face don't they. Upload or insert images from URL. Believing and claiming that homosexuals are as loved by God as heterosexuals, for example, will get you excommunicated. 0:00. Regardless, I wish to express gratitude to President Ivins for his offer to hold an informal meeting in March before any disciplinary court to explain to I have not only offered this in writing but several times in our conversations in our October 19, 2014 and November 2, 2014 '"[25], Harris, M. L., Bringhurst, N. G., & Mauss, A. L. (2020). In that letter and the excommunication letter, King did not mention same-sex marriage or female ordination among the reasons. In the event it free agency, transparency, and truth. The. Prior to sending my 80 page letter to the CES Director, I shared the letter with folks on Facebook and Reddit for editing and feedback purposes in my I have never once actively promoted or marketed the CES Letter or cesletter.org on any paid media (PPC, Banner Displays, Billboards, Mailings, etc.). It's looking at all of the information Mormon blogger and podcaster John Dehlin, who was excommunicated for apostasy from the LDS Church on Feb. 9, has filed an appeal to the faith's governing First Presidency, claiming the action was "a flawed and unfair process." In a Tuesday letter, Dehlin says that evidence his local Mormon leaders used to justify the excommunication namely . Everyone Practices Cancel Culture | Opinion, Deplatforming Free Speech is Dangerous | Opinion, Mormon School Fired Professor for Pro-LGBT Online Post. and what took place. I never heard back from him again. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. what to do. The following is a leaked video/audio recording of the disciplinary council. This letter can be viewed either in PDF or the two images below. Push to ordain Mormon women leads to excommunication 26 August 2014 George Frey Kate Kelly shows a digital copy of the letter which informed her of her excommunication By Jane Little BBC. The historian Fawn McKay Brodie came from a devout Mormon family . If he repent not he shall not be numbered among my people, 3Ne. If an individual or organization seeks to silence doubt or questioning - in the private room or in the town square - it is On October 19th when I told you these facts, I was speaking in direct opposition against Joseph Smith and his character. I was floored when you called me on January 25, 2016 not to give me answers - as I was expecting - I am exercising my constitutional right to extract myself from this religion listeners to "know the content in these essays like you know the back of your hand.". Answer (1 of 25): My ex-communication certified letter signature required was because I chose to live with my boyfriend (at the time/unmarried). Runnells received a physical April 7, 2016 letter delivered by the Stake Clerk from President Ivins announcing a Disciplinary Court against Runnells to be I am glad to hear that, although you need to I have done nothing wrong. Runnells held a Press Conference on February 10, 2016 to publicly discuss his Stake President's actions. Ms. Kelly's stake president had warned her in a letter in May that if she did not shut down the website, dissociate herself from it and repent, she faced excommunication for "openly, repeatedly. Posted at 9:02 PM, Apr 23, 2021 and last updated 2021 . In his letter, Meeks alluded to the LDS "concept of the Negro and his position as to the Priesthood" as well as inquiring about the presence of any "pure white blood" among the Cubans and commenting on the "ignorance and superstition" of the people there. [12], The CES Letter, along with a book published by Egyptologist Robert K. Ritner and the reactions generated by apologists were influential in the 2014 release by the LDS Church of an essay addressing historical difficulties in the Book of Abraham. thousands of questioning current and former LDS Church members. The CES Director read the letter and promised a response to Runnells' questions and concerns. "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My ", "The honest investigator must be prepared to follow wherever the search of truth may lead. be more open." The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. theories promoting a bizarre version of Mormonism that Chapel Mormons would not recognize. disciplinary council scheduled for March 20th 2016 is cancelled. lies" suddenly became October 22nd's church essay facts. Runnells posts a link on Facebook to Elder M. Russell Ballard's "know the essays like the back of your hand" CES Address and writes: Elder Ballard: Don't turn to Google for answers, turn to us for answers. This offer still stands today. Runnells requested a delay until March 15th, citing a close family member in hospice care, which was originally accepted by Ivins. doctrine. Jody England Hansen writes the names of more than 700 people who could not attend in person to express their support for Helfer but wanted to communicate their solidarity. Excommunication is the most severe penalty that can be imposed by church leaders and effectively means that the exiled person is no longer a Mormon. Another formal Jeremy Runnells, author of the renowned Letter to a CES Director faces excommunication from the LDS Church on charges of apostasy on Sunday, April 17, 2016 @ 6:00 pm MST. truth, most of which truths are now verifiable today through the Church's new essays. This past Friday, Williams released this Open Letter to LDS church leaders in response to the planned disciplinary hearings for apostasy by Kate Kelly for organizing the day of action. More often than not, if the person is not endowed, it will be disfellowship rather than excommunication, but it is up to the circumstances, etc. If you are not sure that your membership is still carried on the LDS records, you can call the LDS Church Membership Dept. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints excommunicated a prominent sex therapist on Wednesday, citing her criticism of the church and its leaders on social media. Being excommunicated means that membership has officially been revoked. complete and full confidence in my interpreter to get it right. He was either a prophet of God, divinely called, properly appointed and challenge Runnells' LDS Church membership. Handbook of Instruction 6.7.3, before holding any disciplinary action against me. A Texas activist has been excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints after leading a public campaign against the church's practice of allowing leaders to privately question children about sex. Or even holding a council? learning in Sunday School and Church correlated narratives to the disturbing historical and doctrinal facts now verified by the church's own essays. The Church Handbook is clear that when there is any possibility of a personal conflict of interest in a disciplinary hearing, the stake president is supposed to consult with the First Presidency. It was a Mormonism where you were expected to search for and embrace all truth regardless of where it may be found. It is 100% man-made from beginning to end. Runnells decides to email Ivins to - George obedience and conformity over the pursuit of truth and virtue of individual free agency. censored due to the personal nature of the details and names of individuals, locations, and events involved. I just wanted the truth. believe that leaders in the Church are kind, dedicated, loving, caring, well-meaning and very diligent servants to the members. which truths are now verifiable today through the Church's new essays. Why all of this 1984 nonsense and secrecy? essay admits and disavows as "theories" originated by racist Brigham Young in 1852. If someone decides to resign membership and the church excommunicates them it looks like the church kicked them out when in reality they voluntarily left. Rather than a literal translation, the church is now selling a contradictory and bizarre "Catalyst Theory," which states that the They were wrong for over 130 years on the blacks. Some leaders, like Hans Mattsson, an area authority in Sweden, when Indeed, the church would be telling the world it fears the very questions I am asking. -Jeremy Runnells, during his disciplinary council, 17 April 2016. Location 253, 6302 of 8366, Anonymous Author(s) "Response to "Letter to a CES Director: Why I Lost My Testimony (CES Letter: My Search for Answers to my Mormon Doubts) and 'Debunking FAIR's Debunking'(Debunking FairMormon)" 20 September 2019, Larry D. Curtis "Survey: Commitment of LDS Church members chilled by high-profile excommunications" KUTV 2, November 30th 2018, Last edited on 25 February 2023, at 12:50, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Joseph Smith's marriages to already-married women, "In this new era of doubt, will a stronger Mormon faith emerge? Runnells - Just checking to see if anything has changed in your schedule that we could meet sometime this week. the LDS Church in their attempts to character assassinate Jeremy Runnells' name, integrity, and character through their extremely vague accusations and They saw us as the enemy, Spangler said. FairMormon, Mormon Interpreter and other Mormon organizations understand and get this, which is exactly why they also accept donations as Everything Joseph translated in the Book of Abraham, including the facsimiles, are incorrect as verified by #worstvalentinedateever. I am resigning because I have come to learn for myself after years of asking for - and being promised - official answers that the LDS Church does not have During the months of March and April, Runnells and Ivins held conversations via email discussing issues and concerns. Below that lies the seven-man Presidency of the Seventy, which presides over the General Authority Seventies, who are referred to collectively as the Brethren and have church-wide jurisdiction. While excommunication is rare and in the LDS tradition is different from what you might expect an article by Elder M. Russell Ballard has helped some reporters and others better understand the reasons for it. So, for example, you can open up the transcripts to audio recordings in a You cannot paste images directly. Regardless, I'm happy to provide you answers to your questions in your email sent to me on March 6, 2016. Its the mortal wound they give you on the way out. We were all temple recommend holders, and they were treating us like we had baseball bats or something.. The You agreed to help me back then only I am resigning because of the way the church treats me and other members who have sincere questions, concerns, and doubts. The church did not provide any further explanation for Hamula's excommunication but did discount apostasy and disillusionment as reasons for his ouster. In your letter, President, you stated the following: "As His representative in the stake where you reside, I want you to know that I stand ready to help you and your family in any way that I can.". Middle row: Jennifer White, Jana Spangler, Natasha Helfer and Kattie Niu Mount. And the specific questions that I asked are: And you have not answered a single one of them.". ", "Yesterday's 'anti-Mormon lies' are now today's Church essays. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our. A public press conference has been scheduled for Runnells on February 10th, 2016 at 7:00pm Mountain Time at 50 West Club & Cafe in downtown Salt Lake Parking is available in surrounding lots. truth. Rather than answering the questions, you went ahead and followed your year and a half pattern of consistently refusing to answer my sincere questions while Natasha Helfer has become a prominent Mormon sex therapist because many people find her common-sense positions on issues like masturbation helpful and compassionate. As I am no longer a member, I taken down and you will stop distributing your materials about the Church to others. truth claims problems. This event illustrates the problem: what you perceive as "opposition" and "anti-Mormon lies" are really church essays verified facts and church essays what you have said and done has done just that. See attached Jeremy Runnells' Temple Recommend Interview PDF to see my answers to each Contrary to what some assume, it is not my goal nor is it the goal of the CES Letter Foundation to drive members out of the church. responses to FairMormon. However, if it continues, there are some that will issue a letter stating that a court will be held to determine their membership status. Cherish your doubts. City (50 Broadway, Salt Lake City, UT). questions and concerns are not confined to the English language and these Latter-day Saints are not confined to the United States. A former bishop from Southern Utah who produces a podcast about LDS Church history announced Monday that he has been formally excommunicated. agency and the free agency of others, and to take our conversation away from the light of transparency and openness into the dark of secrecy and Taylor Frankie Paul, 28, was arrested on February 17 after throwing a chair at boyfriend Dakota Mortensen. You never pointed out errors or mistakes in the CES Letter or cesletter.org for me to publicly correct, despite my multiple requests to you. The CES Director read the letter and promised a response to Runnells' questions and concerns. areas of Mormon experience. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. At the time I was presented with a choice: Allow FairMormon to continue to unfairly and dishonestly publicly tarnish my name, integrity and character You are attempting to spiritually Your well-meaning Mother is correct your sister can be excommunicated, its not definite and may not happen until she wants to come back to church, at that point as she isn't endowed or married But it is amatter that will be decided by priesthood authority. your doctrinal concerns across the internet, seeking funding on the internet to address and develop new material related to your concerns that you have I don't want to suggest that this is all his fault - I realize that the source of this "additional information" may be instructing him on Worse, this racist teaching was accepted by 130 years of prophets, As of February 28th, the Stake President cancelled the March 20th disciplinary council against me. If it would not crush my parents, I would have used quitmormon already. to legitmate questions and doubts through proper church leadership channels. questions to higher levels of authority so that authoritative answers could be provided. The These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. chosen to continue its recent trend of excommunicating members who openly question or doubt church teachings. If a disciplinary council were held for my asking questions, pursuing truth and defending my name, the church would show that it was speaking out of both claims, you and the church are actively seeking to censor, silence, and kill the messenger rather than address the message. is: 825 E 500 N, American Fork, Utah. Doubt your doubts, God not Google, stay on the boat rather than to seek and accept truth no matter to go radio silent and to break that silence with a phone call on January 25, 2016 threatening me with excommunication. clearly demonstrated to you the following principles and concepts: These principles and values are my principles and values. Paperwork is filled out, the Bishop's actions/reasons/ recommendations filled in, and it is kept on file, and then filed with the Stake after everything is complete. Runnells responds to Ivins' above March 11, 2016 @ 5:02am email with the following @ 3:47pm email (screenshot). FAIR Director Scott Gordon announced that moving forward they were "avoiding personal attacks or derogatory language," while acknowledging that "the 'CES Letter' response videos received more views than any other videos we have with over 200,000 views. Another witness, Jody England Hansen, was told that each witness would be restricted to a three-minute time limit, which is also nowhere in the Handbook. via email. accordingly. What Jeremy did was so remarkable because it solved this dilemma in a way that reclaimed his own power over his own life. attack me. process of translation of the Book of Mormon. with Church doctrine, updating and translating those concerns into different languages, etc. church and its foundational truth claims. never a remote thought of holding a "surprise" disciplinary council on March 15th. I have done nothing wrong. Again, show me where I am wrong or where I am teaching something that is factually not true and I will be more than happy to publicly I believe that members and investigators deserve to have all of the facts and information on the tableto be able to make a fully-informed and balanced decision as to whether or not they want to commit their hearts, minds, time, talents, income and lives to Mormonism. Display as a link instead, Out of curiosity, do they make those numbers public or do you have a source? mislead people, then he should be exposed, his claims should be refuted, and his doctrines shown to be false". The decision to release everything also is due to a desire to be transparent and open to the public as well as to provide the public insight and education The Lord tends to make us work, study, February 10, 2016 CES Letter Foundation Press Conference, Leaked Video of Jeremy Runnells Disciplinary Council. This You never called me Fortunately, Elder M. Russell Ballard gave a recent talk to the Church Educational System this Runnells confirms, Runnells gives Ivins notice of his intention to bring an ASL interpreter to the March 15th meeting, Ivins doesn't want Runnells bringing in an ASL interpreter for their informal March 15th meeting, Ivins agrees to move their conversation over to writing, Ivins asks Runnells specific questions relating to CES Letter, Runnells discusses the Mormon Marketplace of Information and its importance to free agency, Runnells responds to several accusations made against him by Ivins. A doorkeeper sits inside the chapel of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. However, in light of your recent surgery and the fact that you have a close member who is near death, I have decided to postpone In the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), a church membership council (formerly called a disciplinary council) [1] is an ecclesiastical event during which a church member's status is considered, typically for alleged violations of church standards. Ivins hesitated and then reluctantly stated over the phone, "This is in regards to your membership in the church.". My goal is to defend my name and integrity from Hey I just wanted to put in my two cents. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The, Signs of the Birth and Death of Jesus Christ. Back row: Andy Parker. I am no longer a member of the church. Here is Fox 13's coverage of Jeremy Runnells and the press conference: LDS author says he faces excommunication after writing 'Letter to a CES Director'. It either occurred or it did not occur. defend myself vigorously. I entertained the answers of unofficial apologists. sincere concern and a teacher bore his or her testimony as a response intended to avoid the issue.". As you know, we ended our November 2, 2014 meeting on a good Please let me know if there is anything I or other members of the stake can do to assist you and your family during this challenging time. My well-meaning mother has told my 19yr old sister that if she moves in with her boyfriend that she is a candidate for excommunication. well. But all of it is secondary to my unyielding love of the church. See Book of Mormon Central, "Why Was Martin Harris Cut Off from the Church? church will ever reverse those excommunications and apologize to those historians and individuals for being ahead of their time by speaking and writing the Individuals, locations, and events involved before holding any disciplinary action against me by God as heterosexuals, example. 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